tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2967945126715280855.post4302052822220647551..comments2023-05-25T10:03:45.949+01:00Comments on <center>A national disgrace, scoundrel and extremist*<br></center>: Scottish Referendum Fraud - unlikely.Debra Storrhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00709860197387717627noreply@blogger.comBlogger28125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2967945126715280855.post-88010532906326655202014-09-26T01:13:32.595+01:002014-09-26T01:13:32.595+01:00Lionel, thanks for those kind words.
I think it ra...Lionel, thanks for those kind words.<br />I think it rather sad that my blog should be thought to carry more weight as it comes from Yes. I would hope that all democrats - and we all have a stake in maintaining democracy - would work to ensure a fair ballot regardless.<br />Debra Storrhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00709860197387717627noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2967945126715280855.post-27746125121619186792014-09-25T12:21:04.645+01:002014-09-25T12:21:04.645+01:00Hi, my gripe is that all parties (as relayed by Ru...Hi, my gripe is that all parties (as relayed by Ruth Davidson on election night) were present at sequential postal vote openings prior to sept18. I understand the principle of this, but surely it is the process that should be monitored and the 'competing' parties are not privy to the nature of the votes, let alone be able to tally them. Can you reassure even justify this. Thanks in gillianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15139992426944503163noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2967945126715280855.post-57342701127589045592014-09-25T12:14:35.158+01:002014-09-25T12:14:35.158+01:00Anon; how do you know that the Police are being &#...Anon; how do you know that the Police are being 'deluged' with complaints? Because someone on the internet repeats such a claim? Some healthy scepticism is in order here.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2967945126715280855.post-5578292173971306632014-09-25T12:09:48.525+01:002014-09-25T12:09:48.525+01:00Thanks for explaining this; I've always wonder...Thanks for explaining this; I've always wondered why pencils are used at polling stations, and now I know.Imogen Michelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01175698713309607561noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2967945126715280855.post-46646588521960155552014-09-24T10:39:30.033+01:002014-09-24T10:39:30.033+01:00I'll do a new post on blank ballot papers. I&...I'll do a new post on blank ballot papers. I've tried to be factual here but the level of conspiracy and the wilder accusations being thrown about merit a post of itself.Debra Storrhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00709860197387717627noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2967945126715280855.post-39835908702668233842014-09-24T00:20:38.748+01:002014-09-24T00:20:38.748+01:00The grease pencils described in that sentence on W...The grease pencils described in that sentence on Wikipedia aren't the sort used in polling stations - the ones used are in effect indelible pencils. (You can always take a paper towel with you next time you go to vote and try it out!)Mark Packhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17596137350950820090noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2967945126715280855.post-11844333119427635662014-09-23T18:38:45.381+01:002014-09-23T18:38:45.381+01:00Thanks for this Debra. It carries more weight comi...Thanks for this Debra. It carries more weight coming from the 'YES' side of the campaign. I would have thought that if there was any compelling evidence of this vote being "rigged" then surely Alex Salmond would have been the first to flag it up!Rivermanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10805024347428729831noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2967945126715280855.post-89954611456740721552014-09-23T17:32:49.818+01:002014-09-23T17:32:49.818+01:00There are a significant number of people on facebo...There are a significant number of people on facebook claiming they were having to vote on ballot papers which were totally blank on the back. Should not all the ballot papers have had a barcode and other identifiers on the back? Would all the ballot papers be uniform throughout Scotland?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2967945126715280855.post-404615128574281382014-09-23T12:53:44.532+01:002014-09-23T12:53:44.532+01:00Thanks - do share. There are some crazy conspirac...Thanks - do share. There are some crazy conspiracy theorists about but sensible people are going 'Oh - now I understand'. <br /><br />Inside the Polling Place (and some are the building and some are the building and grounds) the rules are strict. But once out on the public pavement, anything goes. So the response you was right. <br /><br />Bad practise tho' - but that is my Debra Storrhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00709860197387717627noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2967945126715280855.post-42332548540813304052014-09-23T12:18:07.576+01:002014-09-23T12:18:07.576+01:00Thanks for writing this - I have shared it around....Thanks for writing this - I have shared it around. Hopefully it'll prevent a lot of wasted energy. I was interested in what goes on outside the Polling place.<br /><br /><em>Outside the Polling Place, you may find representatives of campaigns. They must stay out of the Polling Place while wearing/ displaying any propoganda and they shouldn't interfere with voters in any way. But they Gerry Mulvennahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12107283232402222435noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2967945126715280855.post-81294065182702197772014-09-23T11:52:04.514+01:002014-09-23T11:52:04.514+01:00Thanks so much Richard. I had heard wax penciils ...Thanks so much Richard. I had heard wax penciils but couldn't trace this as I was writing. It's great to get definitive help.Debra Storrhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00709860197387717627noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2967945126715280855.post-45607377230793580102014-09-23T11:50:13.665+01:002014-09-23T11:50:13.665+01:00If you're talking about the people who appear ...If you're talking about the people who appear to be marking ballot papers at the count, there's an explanation for that: they're writing on post-its. In Edinburgh (I can't speak for anywhere else) the usual practice is to sort votes into bundles of 50 at each stage - first for the initial tally, then later when sorting them - immediately after it has been counted, each bundle is Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2967945126715280855.post-10007247667754337142014-09-23T11:19:45.625+01:002014-09-23T11:19:45.625+01:00They use special indelible ballot pencils - they&#...They use special indelible ballot pencils - they're made by a company called Shaw's - http://www.electionsupplies.co.uk/product_details.cfm?ProductCode=BAP100&Category=109&SubCategory=11<br /><br />Richard Gadsdenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10545595590359552775noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2967945126715280855.post-64388700815703717782014-09-23T11:12:36.184+01:002014-09-23T11:12:36.184+01:00Dear me.
I have published the above rant which is ...Dear me.<br />I have published the above rant which is the type of rather unstable thinking that prompted me to write this post. There was no conspiracy to fraud and those who persist in thinking there was do no service to the caus eof independence or indeed democracy.<br />I am proud to live in a country where elections are free and fair. We often take this for granted. <br />I won't Debra Storrhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00709860197387717627noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2967945126715280855.post-39282585262115649362014-09-22T22:46:54.329+01:002014-09-22T22:46:54.329+01:00Debra...this a very very concise and accurate post...Debra...this a very very concise and accurate post. Thank youCarrie Bnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2967945126715280855.post-13667085445181608642014-09-22T17:06:07.782+01:002014-09-22T17:06:07.782+01:00http://m.stv.tv/news/politics/293041-counting-offi...http://m.stv.tv/news/politics/293041-counting-officer-defends-referendum-count-amid-vote-rigging-claims/<br />Debra Storrhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00709860197387717627noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2967945126715280855.post-86375874127040943862014-09-22T17:04:38.720+01:002014-09-22T17:04:38.720+01:00I have just had one comment in that is not relevan...I have just had one comment in that is not relevant to the above discussion that I have chosen not to publish. Sorry Anonymous. BTW : I feel worse about not publishing comments if they are from an identifiable individual. <br /><br />Can I remind people to stick the the point polling and counting fraud? <br /><br />I'll try to find time to write something about electoral registration and Debra Storrhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00709860197387717627noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2967945126715280855.post-23307597486673071032014-09-22T16:39:42.321+01:002014-09-22T16:39:42.321+01:00The Labour party stated that Scottish people are n...The Labour party stated that Scottish people are not genetically programmed to be able to think politically, I would like to know when Scottish Labour MPs and MSPs are resigning? Johanne Lamont should not be allowed to continue in her role after that statement. Labour got into bed with the Tories and procreated; unfortunately it's the same as treason. It has no shades..it's a case of theyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2967945126715280855.post-1616753199475295252014-09-22T16:27:54.362+01:002014-09-22T16:27:54.362+01:00Interesting.
Now there were no complaints at the...Interesting. <br />Now there were no complaints at the Aberdeenshire count - I was there to the end. <br />And I've a long list of friends and acquantancies such that I would be astonished if I didn't know someone at almost every count. <br />And I've not heard a peep from anyone.<br />Can we cut the second and third hand reports please?Debra Storrhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00709860197387717627noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2967945126715280855.post-54895901034387966302014-09-22T16:22:26.409+01:002014-09-22T16:22:26.409+01:00Can you explain witness reports of questionable be...Can you explain witness reports of questionable behaviour by officials at the count? I know that the police are facing a deluge of reports from counters and observersAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2967945126715280855.post-59009600497165859372014-09-22T12:02:47.052+01:002014-09-22T12:02:47.052+01:00Oh - and I said I hadn't watched ALL the video...Oh - and I said I hadn't watched ALL the videos. I've watched several and people I respect have made it their business to watch more. I can never know that I have seen everything. But there are lots of the same video spammed everywhere. Debra Storrhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00709860197387717627noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2967945126715280855.post-12759497743059410632014-09-22T12:00:59.075+01:002014-09-22T12:00:59.075+01:00I have not published two comments: one queried wha...I have not published two comments: one queried what was being said by an Anonymos and therefore didn't add to the discussion and one contained a link to more unverifiable claims of fraud relating to the electoral register which is beyond the scope of this post. <br /><br />Re pens/pencils and cameras..<br /><br />There was some fuss made about this prior to the ballot. Pencils are used forDebra Storrhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00709860197387717627noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2967945126715280855.post-68518846625435906312014-09-22T07:17:59.524+01:002014-09-22T07:17:59.524+01:00Debra, you haven't watched the videos? If you&...Debra, you haven't watched the videos? If you're going to write an article on vote fraud, isn't it worth looking at the videos first? They are only a minute long. <br /><br />Why is photography prohibited at polling stations? What has anyone got to hide? I'm sitting in a cybercafe now with 10 cameras. There are cameras in the streets, in pubs. But NOT in polling stations. This is Frodonomicshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15317644495495708089noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2967945126715280855.post-84864364584071317622014-09-22T01:05:50.770+01:002014-09-22T01:05:50.770+01:00I went to my polling station years ago and asked i...I went to my polling station years ago and asked if I could use a pen, I was told NO, this time I went along and was told YES, did the rules change over time or what?, and can't pencil be rubbed out and a cross put in the opposite box by someone else, why are we still useing pencils in this day and age.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2967945126715280855.post-68349685577475615112014-09-21T18:09:41.502+01:002014-09-21T18:09:41.502+01:00Very informative.Very informative.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com